We are running the same database version and OS version. This same=0D=0Apr= oblem just recently started happening on one of our databases.=20=0D=0AWe d= o the folowing=0D=0A=0D=0AShutdown immediate;=0D=0AStartup restrict;=0D=0AS= hutdown;=0D=0A=0D=0AThe shutdown immediate was fine. However, the normal s= hutdown was=0D=0Agenerating the 1013 error. From what I could tell, a user= with dba=0D=0Arights was connecting while the database was in restrict mod= e. I=0D=0Amodified the script so that it locks that user's account prior t= o the=0D=0Afirst shutdown. This seems to have fixed my problem.=0D=0A=0D=0A= However, I'm not answering your question. I'm not sure what timeout=0D=0Av= alue is used. Are these sessions executing some long running SQL=0D=0Acomm= ands=3F Can they be rescheduled to run at another time=3F Years ago, I=0D= =0Ahad an instructer tell me that for backups, just do the following:=0D=0A=0D= =0Aalter system checkpoint;=0D=0Ashutdown abort;=0D=0AStartup restrict;=0D=0A= Shutdown;=0D=0A=0D=0AWhile this definitely brings the database down, I neve= r really felt=0D=0Acomfortable doing this. You might just want to kill act= ive processes=0D=0Abefore you start your backup.=0D=0A=0D=0AJay=0D=0A=0D=0A= -- --Original Message-- --=0D=0AFrom: oracle-l-bounce@(protected)=0D=0A[m= ailto:oracle-l-bounce@(protected)] On Behalf Of Vitalis=0D=0ASent: Thursd= ay, April 14, 2005 9:45 AM=0D=0ATo: Oracle-L=0D=0ASubject: sqlplus shutdown= "time-out"=0D=0A=0D=0AHi all,=0D=0A=0D=0A9.2.0.5.0 on Aix 5L.=0D=0ABefore = our cold RMAN backups, we shutdown and startup the instances as=0D=0Afoll=3D=0D= =0Aows:=0D=0A=0D=0Asqlplus '/ as sysdba' <<EOD=0D=0Ashutdown immediate=0D=0A= startup=0D=0Ashutdown immediate=0D=0Astartup mount=0D=0AEOD=0D=0A=0D=0ASome= times both shutdowns seem to time-out automatically (certainly while=0D=0AO= racle is busy rolling back some huge transactions):=0D=0A=0D=0A=3D3D=3D3D> = Beginning consistent instance shutdown and mount: Thu Apr 14=0D=0A01:35:02 = DFT 2005=0D=0A=0D=0ASQL*Plus: Release 9.2.0.5.0 - Production on Thu Apr 14 = 01:35:02 2005=0D=0A=0D=0ACopyright (c) 1982, 2002, Oracle Corporation. All= rights reserved.=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AConnected to:=0D=0AOracle9i Enterprise E= dition Release 9.2.0.5.0 - 64bit Production With=0D=0Athe Partitioning, OLA= P and Oracle Data Mining options JServer Release=0D=0A9.2.0.5.0 - Productio= n=0D=0A=0D=0ASQL> ORA-01013 (See ORA-01013.ora-code.com): user requested cancel of current operation=0D=0A= SQL> ORA-01081 (See ORA-01081.ora-code.com): cannot start already-running ORACLE - shut it down first=0D= =0ASQL> ORA-01013 (See ORA-01013.ora-code.com): user requested cancel of current operation=0D=0ASQL> ORA= -01081: cannot start already-running ORACLE - shut it down first=0D=0A=0D=0A= SQL> Disconnected from Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.5.0 -=0D=0A= 64bit Production=0D=0AWith the Partitioning, OLAP and Oracle Data Mining op= tions JServer=0D=0ARelease 9.2.0.5.0 - Production =3D3D=3D3D> Ended consist= ent instance=0D=0Ashutdown and mount: Thu Apr 14 03:37:55 D=3D FT 2005=0D=0A=0D= =0ABoth "user requested cancel" aren't human actions and it seems that both=0D= =0Ashutdowns time-out after 1 hour.=0D=0A=0D=0AWhat might be the cause of t= hes time-outs giving that sql*net is not=0D=0Ainvolved and that sys's profi= le is "default" (idle_time=3D3Dunlimited). I=0D=0Acan't find any relevant t= ime-out parameter for sqlplus (only for=0D=0Aisqlplus).=0D=0A=0D=0ATIA,=0D=0A= Jerome=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A**DISCLAIMER=0D=0AThis e-mail message a= nd any files transmitted with it are intended for the use of the individual= or entity to which they are addressed and may contain information that is = privileged, proprietary and confidential. If you are not the intended recip= ient, you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any inform= ation contained in the message. If you have received this communication in = error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail message. The content= s do not represent the opinion of D&E except to the extent that it relates = to their official business.=0D=0A -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l